For this interview, we asked Dr. Jim Roach, an integrative physician with a team practice in Midway, Kentucky, to participate. Though Jim is relatively new to the Phoenix community, he is not new to the spiritual path and to bringing others along with him. Besides his active practice, he has written several books, made presentations across the country, writes a monthly newsletter, and has earned enthusiastic accolades from his colleagues for the way he blends medicine and spirituality. His curiosity, as you will see, knows no bounds.

[Questions and comments are Jim’s except as indicated.]

This is a fun one to start with. I have heard two reports about Bigfoot. The most intriguing one: a nurse, when fourteen years old, was hunting in Tennessee at sunset or sunrise, when he came across a “half ape, half man” who was ten feet tall and about fifteen feet away. It seemed to communicate telepathically to him to leave and it made a loud roar. He ran away as fast as he could, and he still has PTSD symptoms at times from seeing it.

It seems there is a Bigfoot, which may be highly intuitive, able to communicate telepathically, and is potentially subterranean, possibly inter-dimensional. What, if any, of this is true?

Bigfoot is also Sasquatch and that is the same as the Abominable Snowman (Yeti)? Is that right?

Yes.

I would say that it is more of a genetic outlier, because there was at one time a much greater population of this kind of creature, and many kinds, actually, of changed species. I would not say that any of these creatures are rare, although they have had all kinds of legends built up around them because they are hardly ever seen. They just tend to be hidden. And, of course, any wild creature that gets a look at humans will set up its defenses and stay away.

I think that the West Coast has a much greater population of that particular Sasquatch, but in Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, and Ohio there was quite a large population at one point.

So it’s not inter-dimensional, and it’s not all that rare.

What are the undiscovered, and underappreciated, benefits of uplifting music? I love to incorporate music in my morning routine and also when I’m settling down at the end of the evening. Is this something that everyone would benefit from doing?

Music is a common bridge across the world, and you can actually use music to affect the mind and the body. Music is as old as any civilization, any tribe, on the planet, because any sounds arranged in specific patterns become music.

Sound can be used to affect healing, to move objects, to lighten a mood or to create a more somber one when that’s needed. A clever speaker uses music to get the crowd revved up and then to bring them back down when they’re ready to speak, exactly like the shamans did five thousand years ago.

You mentioned moving objects. Was sound used to build the pyramids or structures in Lebanon which have huge stones? Is that what you are referring to?

I am referring to that, but it doesn’t have to be anything from that long ago. It’s still being done, and you could even be levitated with sound, because it will do that as well.

Paula: To clarify, are you saying sound and music, Samuel, or just sound itself?

Well, I said a bit ago that organized sound is music, but it’s all music, it’s all sound. But there are particular tones—you may remember me teaching them a decade or more ago—that are very, very low and that get the atomic structure moving within any given function of form. You would not think of those very low tones as music, but they are a part of a musical ritual to do what most would call magic.

Can you give a recent example, Samuel, of something that is going on currently or in recent history using sound for movement?

New Agers are really partial to the work that’s been done with sound and water. Put water in a pan and put sound above it and you’re going to get the water to move, even without the friction of heat. In the science lab there are multiple beautiful patterns that are created with sound, and I mean a science lab at the local junior high or high school. It’s pretty basic stuff.

I recommend the botanical turmeric a lot because it has so many beneficial qualities. What familiar botanicals have great undiscovered and underappreciated qualities?

Well, I would say probably the important thing to remember there is that every plant has a purpose. They’re not all purposed for humans, though, and the fact that it works for you doesn’t mean it’s going to work the same for everyone.

I think that some things that work much like turmeric are cranberry, oregano, coconut. You can, if you’re already in a healthy state, pretty much keep your body stable and healthy. The coconut you can put on your body, you can put it in your body. Do you know about oil pulling?

Yes, I’m familiar with that.

Where you just swish, swish and swish. Doing that with coconut oil can really help with dental caries. If you allow that coconut oil to sit with turmeric for three days, a week—it can’t sit too long—you’re going to find an even greater effect. Again, there’s a purpose for every plant.

And it’s my suspicion that plants provide everything we need. If we could do the research into all the wisdom they have, then we wouldn’t need pharmaceuticals.

I don’t know. You’ve got some pretty amazing pharmaceuticals now. And you are born into a time when the technology is available, so rather than needing to go harvest a plant by the light of the moon and keep taking it for six weeks, you can swallow an antibiotic and be good five days later. Just be sure you’re getting your probiotics to go with it.

Something that I really appreciate nowadays are the hallucinogenic plants being processed in such a way that they can be micro-dosed and help with mental illnesses. People have known that plants could be used for physical illnesses for millennia, but particularly in this day and age they can be helpful with mental illness.

With opioid addiction, would you have a favorite psychedelic you think might be particularly useful?

With any addiction, with any medicine at all, you must be willing to let the addiction go. The mind-body connection is far too strong otherwise. If you don’t care about yourself, even the best treatment isn’t going to be enough. And addiction is a very special issue because so many of those who are addicted simply don’t want to actually be over it. They don’t want the negative effects in their lives, but they don’t want to give up what causes them. That’s true for over-shopping, alcohol, opioids, or whatever.

My sense is that setting positive intentions and pursuing those continuously may be the most important ways to treat depression. What are your thoughts about that?

I think that that is part of a good plan, but depression is a very individualized thing, and one person’s ability to function within depression is going to be different from anyone else’s. The more you are able to be treated in a specific way for you, the better that will be.

Generally, positive thinking is going to ask too much of a depressed person, because that kind of thinking is probably not possible for somebody who is experiencing the chemical dump that results from negative thinking.

However, if somebody is at a place where they are wanting to make their day-to-day better, there are multiple things that can help with a fairly mild depression and with life generally. And one of them is absolutely focusing on the positive.

More specifically, start writing down gratitudes, and the more depressed you are the more often you need to do it. Write ten gratitudes down every five hours in a day. It’s going to begin changing that neural pathway that has been cut off. However, it’s a slow change, so add in other things: Get yourself a more positive set of friends, a community of others who are looking to be more positive; cut out constantly surveying the news—it’s brainwashing this population; cut back on foods that are processed that are known to have a dampening effect on the way the mind works. While I recognize that it’s not for everybody, I would say to get yourself on a whole-food, vegan diet for three weeks and see if you don’t feel better. And movement—it doesn’t have to be lifting weights, but just keeping yourself moving, working on flexibility, stretching.

There are some lymphatic drainage techniques that can make a huge difference. One very easy one is just to take the heel of your hand, put it right above the bridge of your nose, and push up. Do that for a couple of minutes, but don’t bruise yourself. You may even find that you have to cough, because that internal lymphatic drainage from right about there in your brain can be released down your throat. Lymphatic drainage is much more important in cases of light depression than is usually recognized.

What makes you laugh? What makes you excited to get up in the morning? Here are a couple of things you won’t usually hear: Have someone in your life that shares a passion. That could be anything, even playing games on your computer, al-though that’s not going to be quite as healthy as some other things. It can be food. It doesn’t matter what it is, but having a person with whom you share a passion is going to give you something to look forward to that’s outside of you.

And the second thing is to immerse yourself—oh, this is going to sound strange, and I’m so sorry—immerse yourself in holy water two or three times a week if you can. When I say holy water, I mean water you have blessed, and you bless water simply by recognizing it: “You are a function of Source and I’m grateful for your healing properties. I am coming into you with love and I am receiving the love you have to give.” Now, that’s so simple. Get your whole head under that water. You are allowing the water to stimulate your atomic structure, literally stimulate it.

There is research supporting that. Masaru Emoto in Japan showed that if you send love to a container of water, you get beautiful crystals when you slice it after converting it to ice, and chaotic ones when you send negative thoughts. So I understand fully what you are saying.

As I’ve said many times, I have no issue at all with the medicinal use—I’m not saying recreational use—the medicinal use of psilocybin, which I think works with depression incredibly well, and would help your friend who saw Sasquatch. Even micro-dose levels of LSD can be very, very helpful, and again I’m talking microscopic doses taken over a long time.

Psilocybin specifically works with your spiritual connection, especially for people who are beginning to reach higher frequencies on their spiritual journey. I actually highly recommend ketamine, which is very useful for helping the brain rewire.

With all of them, you must go in with a very clear intent, but with ketamine, because it’s very fast-acting, you go in with the intent to bring healing and light into your mind and into your brain—two different things in my book—and know what it is you want to replace the heaviness with. “I want to replace the feeling of being heavy with the sense of being lighter.” “I want to stop feeling like I’m covered by shadows. I want to experience more of the Light.” Your dreams will start skyrocketing, because that’s what it’s meant to do for you.

So these are all options, but I don’t recommend that people just start willy-nilly experimenting. Get somebody to mentor you. Talk to a doctor who is able to help redirect you. And remember that the very first thing is to change your diet and your exercise programs, change to a positive focus within and without. Those three things alone will have a profound effect.

Ayahuasca has been used a lot. It’s a little bit riskier than psilocybin in terms of negative experiences and the type of individuals who are in charge of them.

I absolutely agree with that.

Psilocybin is for the spirit; ayahuasca is for the physical. With ayahuasca you throw up from both ends, and it’s part of the experience. You become very, very focused on your physical self. Psilocybin is designed to shift you out of your body while you’re aware of it. Both of them require intent, and I would say a sacred ritual.

Here is the thing: Guardians just don’t have many Earth experiences, and it is not at all surprising that the spiritual work they do would tend to be whatever that time and space allow for it, be it a shaman, a healer, a minister, a sacrifice. And you are a Guardian, which means your lives are chosen, they don’t just happen.

You’ve brought up micro-dosing for mental issues like mild depression. Is micro-dosing a consideration for those who are really looking to expand their spiritual understanding and creativity?

With psilocybin, absolutely. Some of the others have different properties, but insofar as the most introspective and probably the gentlest, I would thank the mushrooms.

Is the large majority of the universe friendly and looking out for humankind and Earth? Is it accurate to say we are being observed by billions of ETs who cheer us on when we do good things?

[Laughing] There is a game that Americans like a whole lot—football—where there are cheerleaders who jump up and down. I am thinking of them, and it’s a pretty funny picture.

Yes, Earth is watched. Yes, Earth until recently has been fairly curated and limited insofar as what could come and go. It’s still limited as to what can go from here, because as you may have heard me say before, humanity is too dangerous to allow out there, and it’s not yet at the point where that Grid is going to be opened enough to let mass consciousness out anyway.

Cheering—not so much like cheerleaders, but it is absolutely fulfilling to see humanity advancing. And there might possibly be a little bit of “I told you so” happening, too.

Is most of our DNA compatible with most DNA of the highly intelligent life in the Universe?

Yes and no. First thing: your DNA is not as solid, not as stable as you might think. It’s more malleable. And there really are parts of your genetic structure that have been folded and twisted for so long that as you move further into Fifth Density and they open up, you will be far more able to—mentally, certainly, but spiritually too—shift those genetics to be more compatible outside of Earth.

However, as a whole you are carbon-based, and your universe is your universe, so you are going to be able to have a connection—not necessarily a hybrid type of connection—but you are going to be able to have a connection with almost anything in your known universe. But as your energy changes, while the carbon base remains, your crystalline stimulation starts opening up. And so, while you are carbon-based you are also crystalline born, you are born to your crystalline self, your crystalline core. I am referring to the crystalline structures within the brain and across the cell face. The cell face is used more and the ones in the brain less. We can talk for a long time about pineal-pituitary connections to stimulate that, but it’s not the point right now.

As you become more able to process atomic energy, you are going to be able to communicate and better relate to and probably recognize non-earth energy in ways that right now most cannot.

It is my understanding that anger and the need to forgive are the biggest psychological root causes of cancer. Can you comment on this?

Well, I would be very, very hesitant to say this thing always causes that thing, because your world might work like that a whole lot of times, but not all the time. Anger and lack of forgiveness are how humans hate themselves. Somebody who expresses anger, somebody who cannot forgive, they hate themselves and that throws off the body’s functions. And I’m not saying just that they don’t love themselves. It goes far deeper than that.

Anger issues are because of past trauma, and ninety-nine percent of the time it’s violent trauma. The inability to forgive? It’s also about trauma, but not necessarily violent. It’s very likely due to abandonment and betrayal. And obviously those work a lot together.

So you have somebody who feels unlovable, who has had experiences that they cannot reconcile. Their world does not work the same as how they perceive everyone else’s does, and they never deal with it. The brain’s natural reward systems start cutting off, and the body’s physiological, even the autonomic system, starts cutting off. And then poor choices get made. So poor choices are made based on that anger and based on that isolation, which is what lack of forgiveness is, and that is going to show up in a physical issue. If you add Kentucky’s lovely pollution and chemical issues, and on and on and on, it very well may become cancer.

My sense is that animal experimentation with pharmaceutical drugs or medical devices should be banned except in the most altruistic circumstances such as addressing pandemics. Are the animals being of legitimate service when experimented on in less altruistic ways? What are your thoughts? 

What are your thoughts about it?

Well, I love animals. I majored in zoology. My sense is that their use is justified only in the most altruistic of scenarios. I also think that maybe we ought to be experimenting only on humans. If it’s not low-risk enough to be trying on humans maybe we shouldn’t be trying it on animals.

I absolutely agree with you. And the idea that they’re in service to humanity is human hubris.

David: In the past you’ve said that food animals accept that role at the group-soul level.  How does that differ from accepting the role of an experimental subject?

The first thing that you want to remember is that accepting is not agreement, and accepting does not necessarily mean “this is my service to the world.” So knowing that you’re going to be working as a kind of animal that most humans eat doesn’t mean that you are going to be the Jesus of all the cows and you are going to be sacrificed and rise up from the dead as the bull that everybody wants to follow. So it’s not the same.

Secondly, as absolutely horrendous as the life of a factory-farmed animal is, not to mention Daisy the Cow out on the best farm ever, there are more points of good in those awful lives than a lab animal has. They are bred en masse for the lab. They live and die in just-enough-room-to-move-around cages. I think, in the group soul, it is what teaches sorrow.

Stuart: Last year the FDA passed a ruling that said that the testing on animals is no longer needed for the approval of medications, and that’s because now we have synthetic organs and other ways of testing. I think that is a step in the right direction and very positive.

That is very, very positive.

Is it your sense that the current decline in cognition in America and around the world is associated with toxins, medications, processed or genetically modified food, and social media screen time? Is our IQ dropping worldwide?

[Laughing] Yes to all of those. Absolutely.

And it seems that the powers that be may be manipulating that to their own advantage.

You have very good eyesight, my friend, good vision. It’s absolutely right. You probably don’t want to get me started on what’s been happening over the last twenty-five years, creating workers’ slave states across the world to keep people occupied and satisfied on less and less and less, and giving up their power in order to feed a few. It’s horrifying. And the easiest way to create those wage slaves and a depressed, unintelligent society—well, it’s not that they are unintelligent, it’s that they are no longer taught how to think—the easiest way to create that society is to do exactly what you are saying: get people addicted to a screen, addicted to foods that will break their bodies down, teach them that it’s perfectly fine to have children they cannot afford and create cycles of stress that keep the population very, very down. It’s pretty sad. You’ve got a lot of work out in front of you if you are seeing the need to tackle that.

I grew up in the fifties and sixties, and there was a big middle-income class at that point, and now everything is separated, with the rich getting richer and poor getting poorer. And I miss those old days—Woodstock-type days—where people could communicate together on the same level.

Well, that time is coming back, so that’s a help. The love-based function and the recognition of communal living are very Fifth-Density understandings. Leading by fear—fear of want—that’s very Third-Density. Fortunately, the anchoring of Fifth is almost fully complete.

Our climbing to higher and higher Densities may be one way to get fifty-one percent on Earth to think in positive terms, and then get multiple planets like Earth thinking on the same plane, and then multiple solar systems, then galaxies. And then, as we get everyone on the same plane that’s hopefully what leads to reemergence with Source. Is that roughly accurate?

Well, I think so. If you’re seeing that as a larger picture of how the spirit evolves back to oneness, then yes, I would agree with that. Everything that you need to do can be done in your lifetime, because this is your universe, this is your journey. It’s all about you. And so it’s how it shows up in the microcosm that means you don’t have to strive for it to happen in the macrocosm, because it’s happening there in your life.

A friend was researching Paul’s use of the word joy in the New Testament. The Jewish individuals that Paul interacted with defined it, number one, as living in the moment—not living in the future or the past—and number two, counting a hundred blessings in a day. I thought that’s a lot of blessings, but then they count not only the good things, the joyful things, but everything that challenges them during the day as a blessing.

So a good definition of joy is one that counts every experience, every interaction, as a blessing and joy. And when you reach that point in your life where you can do that, it is a joy-filled life. It’s springing out of the head of Zeus. It is what comes. That’s nice. That’s good.

Is there a designated time when we pass through the portal? Are there multiple exit points? If so, how flexible are these designated points?

In any life there are multiple portals. You have an option anytime one of those portals comes up. But when you reach the final portal, you don’t have an option any more.

So there really is a use-by date that is stamped invisibly on the shoulder of every baby, but a whole lot of people, particularly Guardians, go when their primary purpose is complete, even if the physical life could go on. They just take one of the earlier portals. So there’s a lot of choice in there.

Paula: Who makes that choice? Can we as humans make a choice about when we leave?

It would be the entity, because the human will base it on “Oh, I’m in so much pain because my dog died, and I just want to go, too,” when they really should not. Or the human will do something stupid—overdose, drive drunk, whatever—when it’s not their time yet, and they’ve not yet done anything toward their purpose. So the human cannot do that.

But there actually is a broken-heart kind of syndrome that can happen. Let’s say Paula died. David might just pine away, since it could have a literal effect on his physical heart because of the rush of chemicals, the constant heartache. I hate to use such a word that is confusing when I’m talking about the physical heart, but it does happen that a mate will go within a year. You see it in nature all the time. And that’s the kind of situation where the human has a little more choice than it would otherwise.

And to add to that, Guardians have a lot more choice because they’re not here to live out their lives. They’re here to live out their service.

Is it true that whales and dolphins were transplanted here by extraterrestrials?

There is a most definite extraterrestrial component to the evolutionary process of life on this planet, and there are by all means, just like within the human species, those who have chosen to come here to help bring about revolutionary change. And by some definitions, those whom I call Guardians and Watchers are extraterrestrials, not because they are from the Pleiades but because they’re simply not human. Well, the costume is, but the spirit is not.

So it is with certain beings within the oceans as well. Whales and octopuses are very good examples of that. There are very intelligent dolphins, but they act more like three-year-olds, so they’re not quite the same.

Are humans a hybrid of extraterrestrials with primates?

Well, I would most definitely say no. The genome, the genetic structure, was activated. There are still people in your world who have gene signatures that speak of some kind of off-world connection, but it’s rare. Certainly humans have mated with apes and dogs—human nature is pretty awful that way—but it would not create a hybrid species, whereas there are, off planet, very compatible species, and to stimulate the evolutionary process a hybridization can be created that twelve thousand years later still shows up.

It was suggested to me that I have DNA primarily from Pleiadeans and source DNA from Sirians. So I don’t know if that’s off the wall or is accurate, and, if accurate, what the meaning is or how I could utilize that.

The Pleiadeans and the Sirians are so much younger than the nature of your soul. I might suggest that you were a bit insulted with that. No kidding!

Thank you. I think that’s all the questions I can ask. This has been so wonderful.

Thank you so much for this. It’s been a delight, an absolute delight, and I think that the readers will enjoy the curiosity in these questions.