You made a point recently that what appears to be a culture war going on in the world is actually a class war. In many ways it seems to be both. In some cases, the middle and poorer classes are actually voting to empower those who would take advantage of them, and not sup-porting those who are most motivated to uplift them. Please help us make sense of these “wars” and the forces driving them.
Well, the first thing that I’d say is, if it made sense it would not be happening, because people would catch on to it and start making changes. But people really don’t seem to be catching on.
Think about when you were a small child—and I put this into a hypothetical scenario since this isn’t accurate for every child—but a sibling or a friend comes over and you have these great toys. You love playing with your toys, and you even have toys that you’ve not played with in a long time because you have so many toys.
But the friend comes over and all of a sudden it’s “These are my toys! I don’t care if I haven’t played with it in a year. This is mine and you cannot have it.” That’s a pretty typical, human kind of thing—a scarcity mindset. “This is mine! It cannot be replaced. It’s all for me.” But whether you have a thousand dollars or a billion dollars, you’ve got to move out of that mindset.
What the humans want to do, be it a message from the ancient evolutionary self or the current self, is say, “This is mine and you can’t have it!” And the capitalistic society, which has ruled this earth for centuries now, says if you have it, you did things right. And if you do not have it, it’s because you’re doing things wrong. So the system is very set up for those who have to be thought of as the “good” and those who have not being the “bad.”
You can imagine the whole setup, from the first tribe all the way through to today, being effectually about “I am better than you are, because what you need is what I have,” be that the ability to keep the family clothed or be it running an industry. The “I have more so I am better/smarter/wiser” is only because I can offer something you want, and in this society that is money. I need money to eat, to purchase, to have a place to live, to have a car to drive. Money is what I want, so it moves from “you’re good, I’m bad” to a new version, which is that you are good because you have more money. If it was some other means, such as you are able to tap-dance better and the whole society was based on tap-dancing, it would be the same thing. It’s who has what society needs.
Notice what happens when society no longer needs what you have to offer. For instance, I make the best horse carriages that there could possibly be. Oh no! Here comes the internal combustion engine.
Right now, you are looking at people who are saying “It is my right to be able to have a place to live, to raise my family, to have the food I need and the means to get it without having to work three jobs at a minimum wage that is so far below what I need for what prices are nowadays,” so they’re beginning to resist this idea. They are seeing things: how this kind of life—not working forty hours, but working sixty and eighty hours—is killing them. “My parents did it and they weren’t happy, and they did not even pay the kinds of prices we have now. I’m not going to keep doing this.”
So the people in charge say, “Uh-oh! They’re willing to live with less money. They don’t want to work as hard in these industries I have built. I’m not going to be able to have the nearly free labor I need so that I can have the lifestyle I want, so that I can pay a worker ten dollars an hour in order to get my ten million dollar bonus every year.”
The serfs are revolting, and what is likely to make the biggest difference this time around is that in the revolt they are saying, “I don’t want what you have to offer,” which has those who have been living off of the workers really worried.
This kind of revolution happens approximately every two hundred and fifty to five hundred years. That sounds like a big time span, but it really isn’t.
So let’s say, maybe every three or four hundred years a complete revolt happens, but that has not changed society in the past. What is really having an effect now is that those in the ruling class have several advantages, if you will, and you can hear it in the news if you listen. They have convinced the workers that they have it good compared to—and fill in the blank.
So that’s number one: you have it better than most.
The second thing that they do is say, “You are doing this for . . . ,” and they will toss in your family, the people who are relying on you, your community. And that can create the patriotic “I’ll do this for my country” or “This is the American way.”
And the third thing they do is they instigate great fear amongst the workers: “If you do this, you will no longer have this America, and you will no longer have health insurance. You will no longer have money to buy your groceries or pay your rent. You will be out on the streets suffering, and will have let down your community, your family, and yourself.”
That fear stops unionizing. That fear starts there, with the people who are not the one percent or the three percent; they’re not even the fifty percent. It causes them to say, “I need to do everything I can to keep things as they are. They’re not good things, but I know what they are. I know what I’m dealing with. I cannot risk the new.” So they go to the voting booth and they vote for the one who has demonized changing the system. They vote for the one who has assured them that their way of life can be saved. “My way of life might not be very good, but it’s not going to change and I know what I’m going to deal with. It’s okay.”
And the sad thing—oh, there’s a lot of sad things behind this—but the problem is that it doesn’t work. Because the politics is being run by those who are gaining off the workers’ backs. So the managers are in league and not really trying to help.
When you say “it doesn’t work,” what are you referring to?
It doesn’t work to vote for your safety. In America it’s Democrats versus Republicans. I’d rather not break it down like that, but I think the question was basically why do people keep voting Republican when the Republicans are doing so much damage to the people who are voting for them? The reason is because they’re hoping they’re not going to get hurt. They still get hurt, but they do just what a parent with a recalcitrant child does; they give them another chance because this time they will do better.
And what those in power do is keep demonizing anything to do with the other side. It’s a cycle of psychological abuse, as well as physical and financial abuse. It’s being recognized by some, and the more who see it the more change will come. And the good thing is, with the energy as it is now, it’s going to be hard not to see it.
So is the use of cultural biases—for example immigration—a conscious ploy on the part of those who have to deflect attention away from the real issue?
It is conscious, and it is handy because there could just as well be other places to focus on, but yes, it is conscious. I think in the American media right now tremendous amounts of information are coming out from former President Trump’s cabinet about the kind of psychological warfare they were employing, or deploying as the case may be. If you look for the information and you insist on good sources of that information, you will find it. It’s out there.
In a recent Daily Focus there was a point about people doing the research on what they were going to vote for. Some people don’t even know what an amendment means. You really have to do your research before you vote.
And realize that these kinds of things are very carefully worded with the desire to throw people off. “Right to Life” sounds good doesn’t it? It’s carefully engineered. So wake up and see it, and then do something about it.
You have said that humanity has an unwillingness to hold different perspectives at the same time, and that Guardians must cultivate the ability to do that. There are three parts to this. Why is this important now? In what scenarios do you see that having the most impact? (For example in war zones? Racial issues?) And what is the best way for Guardians to cultivate that state of mind?
Why now? It’s not more or less important to hold different perspectives than it has been. It just happens that I hit on a few words that perked up a couple of ears, but that has always been a requirement.
Humans don’t multitask, but you can multi-think. What I mean by that is you can hold the observer mindset. And the observer is your Spirit, the entity you are. It’s the Spirit that’s functioning through you, at whatever level it is able to. If you can keep that part of you active, then every other thing you look at and think about is going to go through the filter of that Spirit being who you are. That’s going to allow the spiritual perspective to every “ism” you come across in your life: to your home and your family and your dogs and your cats and your horses and your rats, whatever. Now, that sounds like a Dr. Seuss book, but that’s how it should be.
What happens though is that people pay attention to what they see and hear and smell and taste and touch. This cup of tea in my hand is real, so I’m going to think about it, and that tiny part of me that says it’s not like that, there’s more to it than that, gets squashed out by the sensory function of this reality. It’s not helpful.
And the more immersed you become into this reality, the more programs you have running at once. One of them is working to dismantle racism, and so you filter everything through “Was that a racist statement or not?” The second one is “I’m working to sell this house,” and so everything gets filtered through “here are the five things I need to be doing all the time to get this house ready.” And the third thing is “I have responsibilities to my relationship.” So the observer function moves away and the survival function takes over. That’s not helpful. Guardians need to be able to function equally in a spiritual observer role and as form functioning in the world. That’s hard because unfortunately the spiritual function is so unreal to so many that they cannot do it.
Is the fact that this planet is based in dichotomy making it more difficult?
Good thinking. Yes, because form versus Spirit is the ultimate dichotomy. It should be form and Spirit, but the automatic nature of humanity is this or that, and if I have this then it’s better than that. Humanity is very competitive by nature. And a lot of people much prefer to have their mental and emotional sensory functions satiated and be the ruling force in their world. And thus it becomes human versus Spirit.
Right. I was thinking when you were talking about tea, the human in me would say I love this and I cannot live without it, but I wouldn’t think it through to the point of asking is this fair trade? Is someone suffering to produce this tea? Because the human is satisfied.
Excellent example. Excellent example
So the best way for Guardians to cultivate that state of mind is to let Spirit rule more and more.
Right. To consciously remind yourself to do those things that keep you in higher frequencies, to make as many of your automatic reflexes as you can be Spirit functions rather than human functions. To surround yourself with people who do that naturally because they want to and have trained themselves to so that you’re not surrounding yourself with people who only value the world.
At the recent Retreat you described trauma, past and present, as a resistance to re-creation. How does trauma affect us individually and collectively within the Ascension process? Are there certain types of trauma—or resistance—that are particularly important to address?
Those are two very different questions.
First, trauma is resistance to re-creation in this sense: Your natural system is in a constant state of re-creation. Your cells turn over; in fact aging is when that process slows down. It’s always re-creation. It’s re-creation within the mind. When you are young you are constantly learning and adding to and shuffling thoughts about and letting go of what’s not working and taking on something new. You reinvent yourself constantly. The older you get, well, it just starts slowing down. Unfortunately, a lot of times that’s just because it’s too much bother. But it is re-creation.
Now, on a planetary level and on high-functioning Spiritual levels within the Greater Plan, Ascension is a re-creation process. Ascension is re-creation because you are creating a new world. You are creating a new spiritual awareness to function within that world. Trauma stops the process because it has a tendency to lock the person in to that age/experience.
Most roads lead to Rome. In the same kind of way, nearly all the roads point to places where you stopped trusting yourself, where you stopped believing in change and re-creation as a true possibility, because something profound—certainly it seemed profound to you—touched your life that caused you to quit seeing yourself as unlimited, amazing, capable. It caused you to stop seeing your world as safe and good. Something happened to replace wonder with fear. And that would be trauma.
Most everyone experiences trauma. For example, you, Paula, are a very strong person. You experience a lot of pain, pain that a whole lot of people would not be functioning through, but you do. You have learned that “All right. That’s how it is right now. I can curl up in a ball and do nothing, or I can keep going.” And you choose to keep going. It isn’t because you’re not experiencing the trauma. It’s because you’re not letting the trauma win. You are re-creating your version of yourself so that you are not limited by your pain. Instead, you work with it so you can go beyond it. Does that make sense?
Yes, except I don’t see it as trauma, which is interesting. I don’t label it as trauma.
But your body does. Your body definitely does. But my point with that is there are people who would say, “Paula doesn’t have anything going on in her life. No big deal.” Other people who say, “How can she stand living through this?” And you say, “It is what it is. I keep going.” Those are pretty much the three responses that people have to trauma in their lives. The best road is the one that involves re-creation.
Trauma can be physical trauma—you were in a horrible car accident or you were beaten by parents as a child. Mental-emotional trauma—you are worthless—which might not be in words, but it comes out in a thousand actions that convince you that you are worthless. And the third one is the sexual trauma. Those are the three big traumas.
Physical trauma is a lot more common than people might think. I’ve got to be really careful here because there are going to be people reading this who have had horrendously awful physical traumas, and I’m not talking to them. There are physical traumas that also create massive mental-emotional traumas. And sometimes it involves sexual trauma, so you’ve got all three in one. I’m not talking about that.
I’m talking about things like your parents spanking you. You were bad, you got smacked, and the alcoholic parent would smack a lot harder and sometimes for seemingly no reason. But you can adjust to that kind of physical trauma. It’s one of the reasons torture isn’t considered very effective: the person adjusts so much that it has to go absolutely to the point of death before they start babbling out anything. Physical trauma isn’t good, but it’s fairly common.
Mental-emotional trauma is where Guardians really receive most of their trauma, because they start out in this world with “I don’t see things the same way everyone else does. I don’t really understand things the same way. I think about things other people don’t think about. I want things other people don’t.” Guardians start out different, and if you grow up thinking different is bad, it’s going to really eat on you, and you’re going to gravitate toward believing that you’re not good because that then allows you to fit in better. “I’m not good because of these things. I can drop these things and fit in and be popular and follow what my family wants of me.” Or whatever.
Eventually you have no sense of self. You’re just whatever makes other people happy. You become a people-pleasing sycophant because that’s all you know. And Guardians—often in the middle of their lives—come to a place where they say “I don’t want that. That’s not who I am. That’s not what I want. I’m going to step off the cliff and see what happens,” and they begin recreating themselves to who they truly are instead of whom trauma was trying to make them.
You said that energy coming from the Source Field is coming through in ways it never has before and that it is influencing dimensions beyond this planet. Why are these energy changes from the Source Field so far-reaching?
It’s like throwing a rock into a pond and the ripples move out in concentric rings, out, out, out. This Greater Plan is in motion, and it has had a very large rock dropped onto it, so it is energetically sending out ripples across the universe as you know it. It’s good.
How does it actually affect other dimensions?
Re-creation establishes re-creation. The changes that are happening here are the changes that have already gone on elsewhere. As I said, it’s like a rock with ripples going out everywhere; up until now you have been receiving those waves from other arenas, be they Densities, be they dimensional structure, be they even time-lines. You have been receiving change, but you’ve not been the specific object of change.
A couple of years ago you started becoming the object of change. Picture it like a child throwing in a pebble and for the first time understanding “I threw in a pebble and those ripples happened.” And then the child says, “What if I throw in this boulder?” That’s what’s happening with Earth. The Source Field has said “These ripples are working. Let’s throw in something bigger.”
At the Retreat you talked about Divine Neutrality. According to my notes, you said “It’s not a human condition. It doesn’t mean you have no thoughts or feelings. . . . It’s a chance not to interfere with Right Action and Right Use of Power.” Would you expound on that, because I think people strive for it but don’t necessarily know what it means.
I think that a lot of people misunderstand Divine Neutrality to be “I am Switzerland. I do not have an army.” Although Switzerland does actually have one, quite a large one.
The idea that it means “I turn my back to all that is going on around me” is not Divine Neutrality. Divine Neutrality is, as I said earlier in this interview, the observer functioning through you. It is choosing to see from a higher, more complete perspective. It is choosing not to allow your emotions to trigger you into actions you or your journey is not ready for. Divine Neutrality is the result of your Spirit functioning through your form instead of your form trying to become a function of your Spirit.
When your form is trying to become a function of your Spirit, all of the emotional touchstones—and remember that memories, including trauma, are emotional touchstones—say, “I want to be this powerful, spiritual, amazing person who still gets really angry and throws the money-changers out of the temple,” and that becomes a justification for the spiritual to be small and fearful, because negative emotions are related to fear.
Do you mean “small” in the sense of petty?
I mean small like ants or gnats. I mean so tiny that it’s not worth you bothering to understand what’s going on—you just act and react. You just live, breed and die. Small.
Divine Neutrality is not human, but it’s also not functioning without passion. You’re not an automaton. You recognize that there is a lot more out there than you know and that you cannot judge any one journey, any one experience. Divine Neutrality involves not allowing society to define how you feel about something, but letting Love do the defining.
